How long can a JW go on not reporting time before they are reprooved?
GB
i have a conversation going on another site about hours and how important they are to a persons standing within the congregation.. one person is trying to say that hours don't mean anything.
that they are not that big of an issue whether you get them in or not.. would anyone here like to comment on that?.
take care.. andyman:
How long can a JW go on not reporting time before they are reprooved?
GB
regarding the new light on blood and the different components we need to be aware of i think it will be very difficult for individuals to figure out what they can choose to take and what not.. regardless of the status the aithful and discreet slave has assigned each of these components one thing should still be kept in mind.
even the smallest amount of blood fraction requires a lot of blood most of this though blood donations.. for eg:.
albumin is often used to treat burns.
Can I have my own blood drawn out and saved in a blood-bank in order to use it when needed?
GB
most ex-jw's df/da that i know end up living a dangerous life.
some get into drugs, prostitution, gangsterism,etc.
as a result they prove the jw theory that says "whoever leaves jehovah's organisation won't make it" right.. it's difficult for me to say this, but it seems like jw's are partly right on this one.. why do most ex-dubs end up in a predicament of some sort?
Thanx for the inspirational points Billy.
How does one Fade, and how long can one fade before being caught and possibly DF'd? Perhaps this is the way to go.
GB
my observation has been the opposite of agb's in this regard.
i have known of precisely 0 who have turned to gangs/drugs/prostitution after abandonning the lies known as jehovah's witnesses.
most seem to lead lives of quiet hope outside the mainstream religious community once they leave - but far from dangerous lives [even from the jw perspective].. just thought counter-point might be fairplay here.. do xjw's live like jw's?
While I do agree with this topic to a certain extend, I have to say that those who pull it off after leaving equal those who end in misery. I am not gonna give any examples or tell stories about what I know ( i do not want to end up being "shunned" here), but it is a fact and most will agree.
GB
some of those of us who are still in find it difficult to get on with our lives after discovering the wt lies.
we keep going to the meetings for family.
sitting there for hours affects one psychologically, especially when those in good standing boast about the new system,how bad people will be destroyed, and how good they are in the eyes of jehovah.
Some of those of us who are still in find it difficult to get on with our lives after discovering the WT lies. We keep going to the meetings for family. Sitting there for hours affects one psychologically, especially when those in good standing boast about the new system,how bad people will be destroyed, and how good they are in the eyes of Jehovah. It really frustrates to be shunned and treated badly because one is not seen in the FS and does'nt comment or work torwards being a MS.
The above scenarios gets one to ask himself who is right,who is wrong/ JW's or 'Apostates'?
This can have an adverse impact on one's self-confidence, which is what I think JW's would like it to be. After all the years of being brainwashed, the first thing that comes to mind when one is in doubt is to turn to Jehovah, if one does'nt believe in Jehovah and his Org anymore where do they turn to??? And can they really be sure and confident about their choice?
aGBm
A sister was reinstated, and within a week she had 'privileges', like commenting and reading scriptures as well as having a part as a householder in talk no 3. That happened recently. All those in good standing were shocked.
GB
most ex-jw's df/da that i know end up living a dangerous life.
some get into drugs, prostitution, gangsterism,etc.
as a result they prove the jw theory that says "whoever leaves jehovah's organisation won't make it" right.. it's difficult for me to say this, but it seems like jw's are partly right on this one.. why do most ex-dubs end up in a predicament of some sort?
Mr Flipper-I do get your point, the Org treats those who leave badly to make their lives miserable. This ussually makes them think of coming back as they find it very difficult to get on with their lives. When they come back the elders often give a 'needs' talk about 'the prodigal son', this though does'nt mean that the shunning stops, it carries on until the DF either moves to another cong or dies. The point is: don't ever get yourself into a position of being DF'd, because jehovah will abandon you and hand you over to satan, so don't question the elders, don't have sex before marriage, always submitt to the FDS, period!
GB
most ex-jw's df/da that i know end up living a dangerous life.
some get into drugs, prostitution, gangsterism,etc.
as a result they prove the jw theory that says "whoever leaves jehovah's organisation won't make it" right.. it's difficult for me to say this, but it seems like jw's are partly right on this one.. why do most ex-dubs end up in a predicament of some sort?
I do not have the statistics of exactly how many DF'd end in trouble, I am saying this based on a couple of DF'd/DA'd that I know. I am not saying this is a trend with of them. Maybe I should have used 'some' instead of most.
I am a born-in, I was DF'd in 2003, got reinstated last year for family. I also went wild afterbeing DF'd, luckyly I did'nt end up a ganster or catch a Sexually Transmitted Infection.
There are some who leave the Org to end up dead or in misery for sure. I am not saying people should'nt leave the Org, but surely Jw's have a point on this one. Remember that most JW's don't have higher education, which makes it difficult to really succeed outside the Org. Being in the Org saves them from embarassment as they can always fall back on the fact that this system of things is passing on.
I am not in anyway endorsing the Org, I am just bringing what I think is an important point up.
GB
most ex-jw's df/da that i know end up living a dangerous life.
some get into drugs, prostitution, gangsterism,etc.
as a result they prove the jw theory that says "whoever leaves jehovah's organisation won't make it" right.. it's difficult for me to say this, but it seems like jw's are partly right on this one.. why do most ex-dubs end up in a predicament of some sort?
Most Ex-JW's DF/DA that I know end up living a dangerous life. Some get into Drugs, prostitution, gangsterism,etc. As a result they prove the JW theory that says "whoever leaves Jehovah's Organisation won't make it" right.
It's difficult for me to say this, but it seems like JW's are partly right on this one.
Why do most ex-Dubs end up in a predicament of some sort? Are they psychologically affected by years of chains and abuse, and therefore end up looking to make up for lost time and enjoy/explore their freedom to the fullest?
GB
an elder from a nearby cong allegedly rendered a resignation letter to company director ("with immidiate effect")after his departmental manager(a former jw) was df'd..... apparently this "brother" didn't even think twice about giving up his job, even though we are in a recession...... he decided to put "kingdom interests" first, ( matthew 6:33).. is this really what jehovah wants his "people" to go through?.
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gb.
Thank you all for sharing your experiences with us....some of us have learned never to take things personally.....imagine life without a good laugh!!!......
GB